• By Joel Streed

Obesity and Eating Disorders in Kids: Mayo Clinic Radio Health Minute

February 20, 2015

Obesity is big problem for many kids.  So you'd think you'd think a dramatic weight loss might be something to cheer.  But in this Mayo Clinic Radio Health Minute, we find that's not always the case.

To listen, click the link below.

Obesity and Eating Disorders

@bobbi_rasmussen

Obviously leggings are not pants, but the 3" above the knee rule feels a bit beyond conservative. I wanted to wear a very nice and tasteful sweater dress, but because I was curious I measured the distance between my knee and the hem of the dress. 4", not allowed. So leggings may be out, but what about the skinny (but not necessarily tight) style of dress pants that people wear nowdays? Is this acceptable or am I stuck wearing frumpy looking pants under the sweater dress if I choose to wear it?

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Quote: "…feels a bit beyond conservative." You do realize where you work, don't you?

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@stephanieasa

While I can understand the nuisance of the crows and their subsequent messes, there seems to be something missing from the comments. These are animals, that are under protection and yet some want to just eradicate the problem. Like any wildlife we have displaced due to development, you have to learn to live with them and understand they have the right to live just as you do. I find it appalling that a clean car has more value than these some called "winged demons". There are far larger problems in our world than a little crow poo. When did we get to the point that just destroying the object of our problem was the solution.

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Oh no!! That is horrible. The poop really stinks too, almost made me heave when I walked through that park behind the Harwick.

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@shandellsettersten

I agree with the comment regarding the parking ramp passes in Eau Claire. Many long term employees feel frustrated by the lack of access to the ramp. I think the process of issuing passes needs to be revamped. Many employees who have parking passes may have change their status to part time, or changed jobs or shifts and work at another location, yet they hold passes and rarely use them. Please explain the other items considered, other than date of hire, when giving new passes, or collecting old ones. Thank you.

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I believe Sheryl was referring to a shuttle lot and not a ramp. No one gets ramp parking after ten years.

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@shandellsettersten

I agree with the comment regarding the parking ramp passes in Eau Claire. Many long term employees feel frustrated by the lack of access to the ramp. I think the process of issuing passes needs to be revamped. Many employees who have parking passes may have change their status to part time, or changed jobs or shifts and work at another location, yet they hold passes and rarely use them. Please explain the other items considered, other than date of hire, when giving new passes, or collecting old ones. Thank you.

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None of us will ever get parking downtown in a long time regardless of the DMC. Mayo will instead switch to more of a parking offsite and transfer in with bus set up. If you look at all the plans for the DMC parking is not one of them. Mayo/City of Rochester wants to decrease congestion downtown and on second street and one way to do that is to decrease cars downtown. Fewer parking lots means fewer cars. Sad but true. Mayo never intends to add more parking. Besides I doubt they want to say that they spent 100 million on parking for a DMC.

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@jasonthe

"Crows do have one endearing characteristic that is apparently not shared by other birds. They will get to know people as individuals. While you can get chickadees to eat out of your hand, any old hand will do, and I suspect that the chickadees do not know you as an individual. Crows will! If you toss them peanuts (I recommend unsalted, in the shell) on a regular basis, they will wait and watch for you. Not just any person, but you. If you do this often enough, they will follow you down the street to get more. I have made a point of getting on the good side of a number of crow families around Ithaca. Some will follow my car down the street, and if I don't notice them and toss them peanuts they will dash across the windshield to let me know they are there. Some of these crows recognize me far from their home territories, way out of context. (It did, however, take some of them a long time to learn to recognize my new car.) So indulge yourself and makes some personal friends with the crows. That is the preferred relationship, because they also are happy to turn this talent of recognition to the darker side, and treat you as an enemy. (Again, not just all people, but you.) Because I climb to crow nests to band young birds, many crows in Ithaca know me and hate me. Whenever they notice me in their territory they will come over and yell at me. They will follow me around and keep yelling for as long as I am there. Believe me, it's better to be on their good side than their bad side!" http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/crowfaq.htm#attack

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Keep in mind, we are not the only city struggling with this issue and I see where Mayo and the city have stepped up and attempted numerous non-lethal ways of discouraging them from roosting downtown. I agree its a real mess. Wondering what we can do to limit their food source downtown even more? Or if that's even an issue. Some other cities doing a lot of what we are already doing too. http://www.wfmj.com/story/27603964/thousands-of-crows-cause-problems-for-ohio-city http://indianapublicmedia.org/noonedition/crow-problem/ http://www.ecanadanow.com/crows-overtake-ohio-city/90054/ http://www.twincitiesnaturalist.com/2010/02/why-do-crows-roost-in-cities.html

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@kathleengraham1

I don't feel like humans have anymore right to be here than the crows do. You can't consume the environment and expect to not share it. The majority of the views here are quite anthropocentric, I feel people need to realize they're not the only things in existence here.

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I park in the Hilton lot, at night, when the birds are actually around. My car has suffered no ill effects, and I can honestly say no "entire flock has charged at" me. Yep, it's gross to get a bit of poo on your shoes, but, in the grand scheme of things, this is nothing. Just another thing for people to complain about.

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@randyrst

Full disclosure, I am a Mayo employee but also in a unique position as a representative for the City of Rochester. I thought I would add some comments to help explain the crow situation. The city has been working on this issue for several years now based on guidance from experts from DNR and Fish & Wildlife departments. Controlling or eliminating the crows is challenging for several reasons. 1 – Crows tend to come into the city during the evening simply because it is warmer and well lighted. This is purely a natural response as the birds seek shelter and protection from predators. Also, they are able to obtain food if garbage containers and other sources are available. 2 – Crows are considered a protected species meaning measures like hunting are very controlled. I know that there are some hunters that take advantage of the two hunting seasons but obviously it can be challenging to make a dent in the numbers. 3 – The city, in partnership with Mayo Clinic, has been working to control the issue with other, non-lethal, measures inside the city limits. Keep in mind that crows are considered a very intelligent creature. It has been documented that the crows will recognize the flashing lights of the 'crow patrol' vehicles, fly away, and then return after the vehicles pass. This is why we tend to use a variety of measures to harass the crows to keep them confused. These include laser lights, sound (fireworks), and recorded sounds like predator calls or distress calls. 4 – We were informed by the biological experts that this will take a period of several years to break the cycle. Mature birds will return along with their young so it will take multiple seasons to train the birds. 5 – Lastly, we are trying to manage the situation at a reasonable cost to taxpayers. The staff you see in the evening are those that are on duty anyway to perform tasks like snowplowing. The additional task of managing the crows provides a way to keep staff more efficient. While the birds clearly create a problem, we are trying to work with the knowledge and tools we have available to manage the situation. The city has been very appreciative of Mayo's help in managing the issue. As stated in the original answer, other comments and ideas may be directed to the city Park and Recreation department.

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If its kill crows or kill trees, hand me a shotgun!

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@randyrst

Full disclosure, I am a Mayo employee but also in a unique position as a representative for the City of Rochester. I thought I would add some comments to help explain the crow situation. The city has been working on this issue for several years now based on guidance from experts from DNR and Fish & Wildlife departments. Controlling or eliminating the crows is challenging for several reasons. 1 – Crows tend to come into the city during the evening simply because it is warmer and well lighted. This is purely a natural response as the birds seek shelter and protection from predators. Also, they are able to obtain food if garbage containers and other sources are available. 2 – Crows are considered a protected species meaning measures like hunting are very controlled. I know that there are some hunters that take advantage of the two hunting seasons but obviously it can be challenging to make a dent in the numbers. 3 – The city, in partnership with Mayo Clinic, has been working to control the issue with other, non-lethal, measures inside the city limits. Keep in mind that crows are considered a very intelligent creature. It has been documented that the crows will recognize the flashing lights of the 'crow patrol' vehicles, fly away, and then return after the vehicles pass. This is why we tend to use a variety of measures to harass the crows to keep them confused. These include laser lights, sound (fireworks), and recorded sounds like predator calls or distress calls. 4 – We were informed by the biological experts that this will take a period of several years to break the cycle. Mature birds will return along with their young so it will take multiple seasons to train the birds. 5 – Lastly, we are trying to manage the situation at a reasonable cost to taxpayers. The staff you see in the evening are those that are on duty anyway to perform tasks like snowplowing. The additional task of managing the crows provides a way to keep staff more efficient. While the birds clearly create a problem, we are trying to work with the knowledge and tools we have available to manage the situation. The city has been very appreciative of Mayo's help in managing the issue. As stated in the original answer, other comments and ideas may be directed to the city Park and Recreation department.

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Its pretty obvious from all of this that non-lethal methods are not going to be effective. I'd say its time to think outside the box, but in this case, the answer was in the box all along.

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@shandellsettersten

I agree with the comment regarding the parking ramp passes in Eau Claire. Many long term employees feel frustrated by the lack of access to the ramp. I think the process of issuing passes needs to be revamped. Many employees who have parking passes may have change their status to part time, or changed jobs or shifts and work at another location, yet they hold passes and rarely use them. Please explain the other items considered, other than date of hire, when giving new passes, or collecting old ones. Thank you.

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I don't get how EC employees feel its not based on seniority. It sure seems to be the case. Where is the disconnect here?

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@kathleengraham1

I don't feel like humans have anymore right to be here than the crows do. You can't consume the environment and expect to not share it. The majority of the views here are quite anthropocentric, I feel people need to realize they're not the only things in existence here.

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This same argument is used regarding wolves creeping into urban areas up north and killing pets. I don't buy it in either case. As humans we have the ability to dictate the environment we live in. If we want crows around, we can let them stick around. If we don't want them around, we have the power to make that a reality. If the crows found you to be a pest and had the ability to remove you from the environment, they wouldn't think twice about doing it.

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@christineschultz

I think the way parking permits are issued in the Eau Claire Ramp right now is fair. Using your date of hire is a very good idea.

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I don't understand why we're arguing the difference between date or hire and years of service. In almost all cases the two are going to amount to the same thing. For the small handful of cases where it doesn't, is that really contributing to the parking shortage?

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@stephanieasa

While I can understand the nuisance of the crows and their subsequent messes, there seems to be something missing from the comments. These are animals, that are under protection and yet some want to just eradicate the problem. Like any wildlife we have displaced due to development, you have to learn to live with them and understand they have the right to live just as you do. I find it appalling that a clean car has more value than these some called "winged demons". There are far larger problems in our world than a little crow poo. When did we get to the point that just destroying the object of our problem was the solution.

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They may have a "right to live" in your eyes. But they don't in everyone's.

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@brandygriffin

Now that leggings can be worn with dresses my next question that I will be asked is do they have to be solid colors or can they have prints and different colors? thank you

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I think you've always been able to wear leggings under dresses, and I don't see anything in the dress code that would require them to be solid color.

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@gregoryschuweiler

The crows are God’s answer to road kill and I do agree quite a problem for those of us that are still breathing and moving about. I suggest a call go out for applications for ‘responsible’ teenagers with .22’s, Mayo and the City provide the birdshot, some supervision, and a couple of ambulances on stand-by. Obviously this would probably be best on the weekend when most teens are looking for something different to do.

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I find Bottle rockets to be very effective in my neighborhood!

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